In a somewhat outlandish interview with PBS’s Judy Woodruff, Microsoft founder Bill Gates dodged questions about any ties he had with Jeffrey Epstein, the late sex trade financier.
In the extended interview that focused more on topics like COVID, climate change, and the work of his foundation, Woodruff launched a series of questions about Gates’ dealings with Epstein.
She started her questions by noting that Epstein had already been convicted of prostitution of minors at the time when he met Gates.
Gates’ answers about Epstein have received a lot of attention.
Judy Woodruff asks Bill Gates about his relationship with Jeffrey Epstein and…wow…it’s a real thing. pic.twitter.com/4XzJfm18qI
— David Enrich (@davidenrich) September 22, 2021
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Judy Woodruff started asking Gates what he knew about Epstein when they first met.
Gates seemed to squirm in his chair and was very wary of his words. He explained:
“You know, I ate with him. I regret doing that. He had relationships with people he said would contribute to global health, and that’s an interest I have. Not nearly enough philanthropy is going in that direction. Those meetings were a mistake. They didn’t lead to what he claimed, and I cut them off.”
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He added: “You know, that goes back a long time now. So there is nothing new about that.”
Woodruff wouldn’t let go of him and tried to pin Gates down for an answer: ‘It was reported that you continued to meet with him for several years, and that – in other words, a number of encounters. What did you do when you heard about his background?”
Gates repeated, “I said I was sorry about those dinners, and there’s nothing, absolutely nothing new about that.”
It was here that Woodruff posed a question that had the potential to be a very telling question. She asked Gates if there was a lesson for him or anyone else who might be in a similar situation.
Gates’ answer is what draws so much attention to the episode:
Gates stated, “Well, he’s dead.”
He continued, “So… You know, in general, you always have to be careful. And you know, I’m very proud of what we’ve done, very proud of the foundation’s work. That’s what I stand on every day and focus on.”
WATCH: Bill Gates says Epstein’s lesson is that ‘he’s dead…you always have to be careful’ https://t.co/GZiBaQqraO
— Dinesh D’Souza (@DineshDSouza) September 22, 2021
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‘A big mistake’
Judy Woodruff wasn’t the first to interview Bill Gates about his relationship with Jeffrey Epstein.
The Washington Post reports that Gates was interviewed by CNN’s Anderson Cooper in August, where he told essentially the same story of meeting Epstein for several dinners, presumably to discuss topics related to Gates’ philanthropic endeavors.
Again, he told Cooper that associating with Epstein was “a big mistake” and that when it appeared that charitable funding “wasn’t real”, he ended all dealings with Epstein.
Gates gave a rather cryptic answer, making some sort of comparison between himself and others who may have associated themselves with Epstein: “It was a big mistake to spend time with him, to give him the credibility to be there. You know, there were many others in the same situation, but I made a mistake.”
But perhaps Gates’ most disturbing comments came in 2011. After his first meeting with Epstein, Gates emailed colleagues that “his lifestyle is very different and intriguing, although it wouldn’t work for me.”
Gates’ spokeswoman Bridgitt Arnold later stated that Gates was “referring only to the unique decor of the Epstein residence — and Epstein’s habit of spontaneously bringing in acquaintances to meet Mr. Gates.”
Speaking of that decor — it’s long been reported that a painted portrait of former President Bill Clinton wearing red high heels and the infamous “blue dress” of Monica Lewinsky fame was found in Epstein’s home.
daily reminder that Jeffrey Epstein had this painting of Bill Clinton in his mansion pic.twitter.com/s2eITCiUkd
— Mike ░▒▓█ マイケル (@northexpedition) July 30, 2020
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Epstein resurfaces in the news
Epstein was found dead of an apparent suicide in his New York City prison cell in August 2019, but he was in the news again this week.
On Tuesday, one of Epstein’s alleged victims, Virginia Giuffre, filed a lawsuit in the US against Britain’s Prince Andrew, alleging she was forced to have sex with the prince at the London home of longtime Epstein associate Ghislane. Maxwell.
Maxwell is currently being held on charges of sex trafficking.
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